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Saturday, May 21, 2005

The quiz

Okay, I took the worldview quiz that's causing such excitement throughout the blogosphere, and here's how it came out:

You scored as Idealist. Idealism centers around the belief that we are moving towards something greater. An odd mix of evolutionist and spiritualist, you see the divine within ourselves, waiting to emerge over time. Many religious traditions express how the divine spirit lost its identity, thus creating our world of turmoil, but in time it will find itself and all things will again become one.



Cultural Creative














What is Your World View? (corrected...again)
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Battling Batshit Crazy Rightwing Lunatics

Sister Scorpion was kind enough to answer my cry for help in the battle against the batshit crazy lunatics on the Psychotic Farmers Forum.

Man, those people are out to lunch crazy. Whacked!

In any case, Sister Scorpion gave me some excellent excellent info concerning one of the currently fashionable winger canards: that the Koran states the infidels must be killed.

Her response, which I'm posting from an email w/o her permission (!) is below --- copy it and save it --- you never know when you're going to need it. She sent me more, as well, which I haven't yet had a chance to go over ... or use on the batshit crazy Christians.

"the verse in question refers to a specific incident where Mohammed had a treaty with the people of Mecca and the Meccans broke the peace treaty and began attacking them again. It's all about self defense, any form of pre-emptive ANYTHING would be completely forbidden- and I dont give a shit what certain idiot milk sheikhs say about it, it's too obvious to ignore.

Anyway, here's some verses, shove them down their throats, along with the verses BEFORE and AFTER the notorious one. You've got to LOVE cherry picking Lollll

Quran, chapter 4 (An-Nisa, aka Women) Yusuf Ali translation

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html (three translations found at this url)

86: When a (courteous) greeting is offered you, meet it with a greeting still more courteous, or (at least) of equal courtesy. Allah takes careful account of all things.

87: Allah! There is no god but He: of a surety He will gather you together against the Day of Judgment, about which there is no doubt. And whose word can be truer than Allah's?

88: Why should ye be divided into two parties about the Hypocrites? Allah hath upset them for their (evil) deeds. Would ye guide those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way? For those whom Allah hath thrown out of the Way, never shalt thou find the Way.

89: They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks;-

90: Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people. If Allah had pleased, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you: Therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you not, and (instead) send you (Guarantees of) peace, then Allah Hath opened no way for you (to war against them).

91: Others you will find that wish to gain your confidence as well as that of their people: Every time they are sent back to temptation, they succumb thereto: if they withdraw not from you nor give you (guarantees) of peace besides restraining their hands, seize them and slay them wherever ye get them: In their case We have provided you with a clear argument against them.

92: Never should a believer kill a believer; but (If it so happens) by mistake, (Compensation is due): If one (so) kills a believer, it is ordained that he should free a believing slave, and pay compensation to the deceased's family, unless they remit it freely. If the deceased belonged to a people at war with you, and he was a believer, the freeing of a believing slave (Is enough). If he belonged to a people with whom ye have treaty of Mutual alliance, compensation should be paid to his family, and a believing slave be freed. For those who find this beyond their means, (is prescribed) a fast for two months running: by way of repentance to Allah: for Allah hath all knowledge and all wisdom.

93: If a man kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell, to abide therein (For ever): And the wrath and the curse of Allah are upon him, and a dreadful penalty is prepared for him.

94: O ye who believe! When ye go abroad in the cause of Allah, investigate carefully, and say not to any one who offers you a salutation: "Thou art none of a believer!" Coveting the perishable goods of this life: with Allah are profits and spoils abundant. Even thus were ye yourselves before, till Allah conferred on you His favours: Therefore carefully investigate. For Allah is well aware of all that ye do."

Okay, I'm back

*blushing* Truth is, a lot of my time the past few days has been spent over on The Psychotic Farmers Forum battling rightwing batshit loonies.

That and mowing. And painting the bathroom I've been painting for over a year now. And worryng about my tomatoes. And thinking about getting a new job. And rassling a really annoying student who wats a better grade. Etc.

But I kind of think I'm back now. I feel much better --- can't believe it took almost two and a half weeks of 12 hour a night sleeping, but I'm starting to feel downright perky.

So I don't have anything particularly deep to say yet --- my mind is very occupied with the fact that I honestly have nothing but winter clothing and work clothes --- but give me a little time.